— Quando é que morre a infância?

— Como assim, Mugnol?!

— Tava pensando nisso, dia desses...

— A infância nunca morre.

— Claro que morre.

— Eu quero dizer que a gente pode ser sempre criança.

— Ser infantil não tem nada a ver com a permanência da infância.

— Podemos ser crianças mesmo com 70, 80 anos, sei lá.

— Minha tese (sic) é que a infância morre quando a ingenuidade entra em colapso.

— Como assim, meu?

— Então, é só uma viagem... Mas, pra mim, a ingenuidade é tipo o cordão umbilical da infância. Quando rompido até o olhar da gente muda.

— Ah, tu falas de uma inocência e de uma pureza de quando éramos crianças?

— Também, mas não só isso. Sabe aquelas bolinhas de sabão? Então, crianças e adultos se divertem com isso. Reside aí uma certa pureza, uma inocência que brota da frivolidade. E, aliás, isso até poderia ser o tema de uma crônica. Vou pensar melhor sobre isso, risos.

— Vou pedir mais uma taça de vinho, queres também?

— Quero. Obrigado.

— Continua aí, tô curtindo tua viagem...

— Quando eu falo da morte da infância pelo colapso da ingenuidade eu me refiro a essa ingenuidade mais como uma estratégia de defesa, sabe!?

— Como assim (risos)? Estratégia de defesa...

— Cara, lembra quando a gente ficava furioso no colégio só porque nosso time tava perdendo em um jogo na educação física"> 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